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Is vanilla botter detectable? My experience 
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Hello all, I wanted to ask your views on whether you think vanilla botter is detectable.

My experience has been mixed recently with the Lighthope - North Dale realm. I have had 5 accounts banned in the last two weeks. None of my characters have made it over level 25. I have been very conscious about safety and not witnessed any obvious reasons of getting caught.

I have experienced a random disconnect with no other characters around. I log in and then I am banned.

My question is vanilla botter possible detected now server side? And if not is there something obvious I am missing? I have been botting for a long time since early days of glider and never experienced this level of bad luck before. Curious for your thoughts.

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Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:30 am
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airrunner wrote:
I have experienced a random disconnect with no other characters around. I log in and then I am banned.
That is how bans have happened pretty much always, unless it is server policy to question you first or something. GMs are usually invisible and it shouldn't really matter whether other players are around you at the time when you are banned.

airrunner wrote:
My question is vanilla botter possible detected now server side?
Rather unlikely. The bot does not do anything that normal players can't do and if they were capable of directly detecting it then they would most likely instantly kick/ban you like it happens with speedhacks etc. and not wait for days, weeks or however long it has been.

While it is possible that servers could implement code to check for repeating patterns in skills used or paths walked, having algorithms like that running is extremely memory and CPU heavy and would probably grind their servers to a halt especially considering that it would have to be done for thousands of players at once. Without having some inside information from their side I would simply assume that they do not do anything like this.
The more likely issue is simply that Light's Hope is very populated compared to other servers right now. The same thing has been true for other servers that were popular in the past where people were pissed about getting banned quickly/frequently.
It only takes a single player report to get a GM to watch you and any experienced player, which GMs usually are, can identify botlike behaviour given a little bit of time.


Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:09 pm
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Lys wrote:
airrunner wrote:
I have experienced a random disconnect with no other characters around. I log in and then I am banned.
That is how bans have happened pretty much always, unless it is server policy to question you first or something. GMs are usually invisible and it shouldn't really matter whether other players are around you at the time when you are banned.

airrunner wrote:
My question is vanilla botter possible detected now server side?
Rather unlikely. The bot does not do anything that normal players can't do and if they were capable of directly detecting it then they would most likely instantly kick/ban you like it happens with speedhacks etc. and not wait for days, weeks or however long it has been.

While it is possible that servers could implement code to check for repeating patterns in skills used or paths walked, having algorithms like that running is extremely memory and CPU heavy and would probably grind their servers to a halt especially considering that it would have to be done for thousands of players at once. Without having some inside information from their side I would simply assume that they do not do anything like this.
The more likely issue is simply that Light's Hope is very populated compared to other servers right now. The same thing has been true for other servers that were popular in the past where people were pissed about getting banned quickly/frequently.
It only takes a single player report to get a GM to watch you and any experienced player, which GMs usually are, can identify botlike behaviour given a little bit of time.


Hi Lys, Very grateful for your detailed response.

Your perspective is very logical and very likely the case. This is why i continue to support VH, excellent service.

Thank you for your support.

Aaron


Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:20 pm
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when you are being safe and cautious. does that mean using paranoia? are you going 24/7 with a short original profile?


Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:00 pm
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WoW Warden cannot detect VB. That being said, no server or anyone from, nothing should have access to your computer to read/see what you are doing. What does happen is the code running on the server shows your logs - what you've done. IF you are fishing for 2 days straight... it will show... don't do it. Everyone needs a break.

Farming profiles that cause you to run in circles in the same area or through the same spot too many times also becomes obvious. You should find a secluded spot like northern Arathi or a corner of Alterac, for examples. A place no one will see you!

Combat profiles need to look human. If you are casting every spell with exact timing in the same order it becomes obvious. You don't want your bot/character to look like a bot... plain and simple. Simple combat profiles are the best to work with but then they look unusual... you have more spells and can do more than that right?

(make your profiles stagger drinking/eating/casting spells and make it look like a human!)

There are other not so obvious things that can make someone wonder.. I've been banned and told by the GM before hand they had suspicious after I asked in trade chat for 400 mage water..

It is not hard to avoid doing these things but it also takes practice. Well more than worth the effort once achieved.


Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:15 pm
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